1.

Please include representation in the panel and the responses that is applicable to SMALL companies (my company has fewer than 100 employees).  My company cannot afford the "buy in" to get a seat at the table for this committee.

We understand and appreciate that not all suppliers may be able to join the AESQ strategy group as a non-voting member; thus, we created the Communities of Practice sites for suppliers to interact with the working teams.

2.

Upon implementation what will be the biggest changes/differences that a small subcontractor will notice?

Implementation of APQP, human factors focused programs, and sub-tier management

3.

Is the standard going to be the same for all companies? (i.e., sone companies in the Aeroengine Supply Chain have only 15 employees)

The requirements apply equally to all suppliers

4.

We are a SMALL company and contract our Internal audits.   (I do not have enough personnel to justify the training for someone to meet the auditor requirements of this standard. None of the auditing companies I have contacted have any familiarity with this standard.  How can we find qualified people to audit us to this standard?

There are numerous audit training contractors available for suppliers to satisfy this requirement. Familiarity with the AS13100 standard is not a prerequisite for auditor training; however, a working knowledge of the standard is expected for the auditors performing the internal audits

5.

I work for a small company - How can I find an auditor qualified to perform the Internal Audit for compliance to AS13100?

See #4 answer

6.

While there should be long term savings, are customers prepared to support small companies who have to invest in training and manpower to comply with these requirements that they did not impose on us until now?

Investment in the short term to achieve the intended results seems like a small price to pay to raise the bar across the industry

7.

I have listened to several Primes discuss how their quality manuals are smaller and better and easier to follow now that AS13100 is on the horizon. But in reality the requirement is just somewhere else. How is this simpler and easier for us (the small sub)?

It is always easier and better if there are less requirements. It has been explained that the individual OEM requirements have been reduced by more than 50%. We recognize that there is still work to be done to remove the remaining specific OEM requirements and will remain committed to do so over the next few years.

8.

Is a certificate been issued as a result of the audit?

No

9.

Has any official course for AS13000 auditors been planned?

No

10.

How will AS13100 be attached/connected to AS9100 for auditing purposes? Primarily when our external auditor visits us annually.

AS13100 and AS9100 are not connected and is not auditable by your AS9100 registrar source.

11.

Is the AS13100 accreditation will be mandatory and replace AS9100 for Aeronautic requirements of engine parts?

No

12.

Will example policies and procedures for AS13100 compliance be made available for benchmarking?

No; although there is an extensive Reference Manual library of best practices and guidance material

13.

Flow down of requirements to sub-tiers: What is being done by the AS13100 creators to instill the importance of complying to AS13100 to the many sub-tier suppliers? Without the creators / end customers pushing compliance, we will fight a battle to get them to comply. Worst are the customer assigned suppliers who know they have the job and will do as little as possible to comply. Saying in the spec that we make the sub-tiers comply is a lot harder than it looks.

Flow down to sub-tiers will be the responsibility of each prime supplier. OEMs understand the importance and the inherent risk of sub-tier suppliers; thus, the expanded requirements in Section 8.4 related to Control of Externally Provided  Processes, Products, and Services

14.

The standard is going to be necessary for all sub-tiers?, or just first-tiers?

First tier (prime) suppliers are responsible for compliance to AS13100; there are requirements that apply to sub-tier suppliers and prime suppliers are required to ensure flow-down to and compliance by the sub-tier supplier(s)

15.

Will there be classes in AS13100; 13000, and related specs throughout the country?  Many people do not learn well in a 4 day zoom class and small companies do not have budgets that include plane tickets.

The initial training is all online or virtual. The available training includes Executive Overview, Requirements Course and starting in 2022 a Foundations course

16.

Who do we contact regarding errors in the standard?

There is a hyperlink on the front page of the standard to provide feedback

17.

When AS13100 is deployed, are all specific requirements such as SABRe, ASQR-01, S-1000 going to be reduced? When?

GE and SABRe have already incorporated AS3100 into their flow-down; the other OEMs have committed to doing so as soon as possible

18.

Does AS13100 deployment process considers contract amendments? e.g. if specific contract refers to SABRe3, and future state is AS13100 + SABRe4.

Each OEM will flow down the AS13100 as part of their typical supplier flow-down

19.

Creating FMEAs and Control plans for every part will be a massive undertaking - especially for companies with limited staff. This is very new to most companies and when done correctly, takes many hours to complete the documents for one part. I believe most suppliers will need to add this to the cost of the FAI / feasibility process. Are the main customers prepared to pay for these extra items? How has this been addressed in the creation of this new requirement? And will these documents actually be used? Many customers still do not understand themselves what these documents are. Design FMEAs are yet to be provided by customers who have created AS13100. Is this too much too soon? Having worked with these documents for many years in the automotive world, I know they are a great benefit - IF created cross functionally and used effectively. Most of the time you must have assigned staff to focus on the upkeep of these living documents. Suppliers are not prepared for the manpower involved to make this happen. 

The requirements for Process FMEAs and Control Plans should not be new to any supplier.     At Rolls-Royce they have been required for over 12 years via SABRe. However we recognise that the standard of these tools have been varied and hence the AESQ have provided more structure and guidance to what is required. We expect that this additional guidance will help organisations to get the most benefit from defect prevention and therefore avoid unnecessary quality costs, improve delivery performance and improve quality / safety performance.

DFMEAs are always unlikely to be provided by the design organisation due to IPR. However a design engineer armed with the DFMEA can provide the required inputs. Also organisations experienced in providing products will have a history of what the potential effects are and the related severity scores.

Having been through this in the automotive industry over 30 years ago I will not be surprised to see some suppliers fall by the wayside as the bar for quality is raised by these standards. These requirements only apply to new product introduction or major design / process changes. Hence organisations will be able to put any additional costs into their bid for the work. Suppliers who do not see the life cycle benefits of a defect prevention approach will increase their costs, they will lose out to other organisations and over time will either decide to leave aerospace or simply fail.

20.

While these requirements may have been out there - our customer base has not required them until now.  We tried to register for some the required training and it was cancelled.  What are we supposed to do and how can we prepare in such a short time frame?  I am tired of hearing that 'someone' (insert Quality Manager for every small company) can read the RM and train everyone - it may not have been the intent, but this is getting dumped in the lap of the Quality Manager.

There has been ongoing communications on the required preparedness and the associated timing to be compliant by December 31, 2021. There is training available online, a timeline with milestones, and, yes, a wealth of Reference Material available for meeting the requirements.

21.

"How many hours of implementation is estimated to incorporate AS13100 into existing quality systems?  For example CMMC/NIST estimate is 200 hours. "

It would be hard to provide an estimate because it would be dependent on the maturity of each organization and the robustness of their business model and Quality Management System.

22.

How much overhead/added costs will it take to comply with AS13100 annually?

It would be hard to provide an estimate because it would be dependent on the maturity of each organization and the robustness of their business model and Quality Management System.

23.

Where can I find an acceptable class on Human Factors?

The RM13010 team is actively working to schedule and execute a couple of Hyman Factors webinars in December 2021

24.

Will the companies requiring compliance to this standard actually communicate this to their Buyers AND their Engineering Departments, who will flow it down to the supplier SALES personnel and the supplier Engineering departments, or will it be up to the Quality person to find the requirements in linked documents, and then try to convince management that this has to be done?

Each OEM will flow down AS13100 through the same process as their current quality requirements

25.

Do we think customers will pay for PPAPs on products that were designed and qualified 30 years ago?  (and haven't been changed since)

We are not requiring APQP and PPAP on legacy hardware; Full compliance to Advanced Product Quality Planning (APQP) is required for all New Product Introductions (NPI) started after December 31, 2022.

26.

Will the AESQ create a Reference Manual document for the Risk requirements (suggests using 31000 as a guide) in the new standard?

Not at this time