AESQ Supplier Forum - AS13100 Overview (Audit/Certification Questions)
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| How does AESQ define the annual examination requirement period for AS13100? Does it allow a grace period beyond 365 days? |
In AESQ’s view, It is reasonable to set an extended period with certification validity period as specified in NAS410 which allows extended period to cover the month the previous exam was performed. For example, if an exam was performed May 20, 2022, the expiration date would be end of May 2023. |
| Will you need to be certified/qualified/accredited to AS13100? Or will every OEM audit the suppliers? | Supplier audits will be carried out by the customer as it is done today. |
| Will the OEM's share supplier audits or will we still have independent audits by each OEM? | The initial situation will be for each OEM to conduct its own audits, as they do now. The Subject Matter Interest Groups may wish to evaluate how OEMs can avoid duplicate audits as this was one of the original intentions of the audit requirements. |
| Do organizations need to get AS13100 certified? |
No. |
| Will this help our organization to conduct a single internal audit combining AS9100, S-1000 & ASQR-01 requirements? |
That is the intent. There are currently some differences with OEM unique requirements, but this should allow large parts of the requirements and hence audit checklist to be the same. |
| Is the product audit anticipated to be a product strip down (i.e. destructive)? | There are various ways in which the intent of the product Audit can be met. We would always try to avoid destructive testing. |
| Quality Audit (requirements): Who is checking compliance to AS13100? Is it planned to be coordinated centrally? | The customer will check compliance as well as the supplier (through internal audits and the self assessment checklist RM13009) |
| If we have these internal audits done by ourselves, can we submit the same to OEM to avoid further audits? | The intent of the Internal Audit Report is to establish a level of confidence in the organisations internal audit process that can then allow a reduced customer audit or mitigate the need for an audit at all. You should work with the Subject matter Interest Group on this to understand more. |
| Do Special Process Audits need to be supplemented with additional audits if Nadcap audits are set to 18 months? | Yes, the maximum time period in between a special process audit is set at 12 months due to the critical nature of such audits. |
| If you have achieved merit with NADCAP can you perform special process audits every two years rather than every year? | No, the maximum time period in between a special process audit is set at 12 months due to the critical nature of such audits. |
| Is the intent to eventually replace AC7004 (Nadcap), ISO 9001 and SAE AS9100 or will this be a new standard that is added to the other standards that already exist? Will all aerospace companies recognize AS13100? | AS13100 replaces major parts of the Aero Engine Manufacturers unique supplier requirements by creating a single set of harmonised requirements acceptable to the AESQ members. They are in addition (supplemental) to ISO9001, AS9100 and Nadcap and do not replace them. |
| Presently requirements are AS9100, customer and NADCAP. Where does NADCAP fit in after compliance to AS13100? | Most OEMs require special process assessment to NADCAP. This is reflected in AS13100, it does not contradict or add to the existing requirements for NADCAP by the customer. |
| Presently requirements are AS9100, customer and NADCAP. Where does NADCAP fit in after compliance to AS13100? | Most OEMs require special process assessment to NADCAP. This is reflected in AS13100. Iit does not contradict or add to the existing requirements for NADCAP by the customer. |
| Does the special process audit (RM13005) have any connection with AS9102 Form-2? | There is no direct link between RM13005 special process audit and AS9102 Form 2. Column 9 of Form 2 is asking if special process or material sources are approved by the customer, if required. If customer approval is required for a certain customer, RM13005 special process audit could be a piece of the requirement for approval, which in this case, there would be an indirect link. |
| How many days do you anticipate the compliance audit to be by the customers? | The same as it is today, it will depend on the type of supplier, their product range and number of potential issues / supplier maturity. |
| Will there be a published scorecard/audit reports for suppliers available to AESQ members? | There are no plans to do this at this time. |
| Does the accreditation change also (AS9100?) | This does not affect the current accreditation requirements. Supplier will still be required to be certified to ISO9001, AS9100 and/or NADCAP. AS13100 will be assessed through customer auditing as it is done today e.g. Rolls-Royce's SABRe audits will include AS13100 requirements. |
| Recognizing that AS9100 rev E is due sometime soon, how are AESQ working with the AS9100 WG in IAQG to (hopefully) harmonize across all of the industry sectors? | AESQ holds regular meetings with IAQG Requirements leaders. Although, AESQ does not anticipate many of the AS13100 requirements being uploaded into the new revision as the AS9100 has to serve a broad spectrum of supplier types. And, the aero engine supply chain is seen as needing to be more demanding and prescriptive due to its product risk profile. |
| If we don't fully comply with AS13100 requirements, how would that impact our AS9100 cert? | Noncompliance to AS13100 could result in an AS9100 finding related to section 8.5. |