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AESQ Supplier Forum - AS13100 Overview (Transition)

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So the Rolls Royce SABRe will be revised soon?

Yes, it is currently on an internal ballot and should be ready for publication in June 2021.

When will Customer documents Sabre, GE Requirements, Pratt & Whitney be released to suppliers?

Each company has different timescales although they will all be published by the middle of 2021.

Is the method for Design Risk Analysis standardized across the OEMs? (i.e. GE, RR, Safran, & Pratt)

AS13100 has defined Design FMEA as the method of Design Risk Analysis (see RM13004). There may be a transition period to move from any current methods to the use of DFMEA that you will be informed about by the customer.

When do suppliers need to be 100% compliant with the new AS13100 standard? With the understanding that we should be compliant with the majority of the requirements in the document.

The date for compliance is set at January 1, 2023.

Are suppliers authorized to begin implementation of AS13100 (and associated RM13XXXs) ahead of customers changing their supplier QMS requirements? Example - RM13002 (or AS13002) is not an approved sampling plan by all customers yet, if we implement it, will be in compliance with some, but out of compliance for others).

Please discuss any exceptions with the customer.

Does AS13100 and the Reference Manual supersede AS1300X Standards?

Yes, AS13100 and the AESQ Reference Manuals (RMs) will replace the existing AS1300x standards (except for the free AS13001 DPRV Training Standard which will remain) by January 1, 2023, but will co-exist until then to allow organizations time to transition.

Have RR, SAFRAN, GE & P&W bought into the deployment of AS13100? Are Boeing and Airbus considering deployment?

All AESQ member companies are deploying these standards internally. They are not intended to be 'flowed up' to our customers although they have endorsed our use of them.

I am more than convinced about the benefits of common practices. But How Covid-19 effects on available resources (people, cash flow) will be taken into account by OEM on deployment?

This was one of the reasons that we extended to implementation until January 1, 2023. There are very few 'new requirements' in AS13100 compared to the previous OEM standards, the changes should not be too great.

When will OEMs update their specs like S-1000, SAFe, SABRe, and ASQR 01 to reflect this and in order to avoid duplications, etc?

All OEM revised requirements should be available by the middle of 2021 allowing 18 months for the transition.

Is a Rollout Plan available by when each member is intending to apply and use the AS13100 standard? E.g. Rolls By Date... Safran By Date etc.? This is considering the timeframe Provided. The compliance date is January 1, 2023. Each OEM will deliver its updated requirements by the end of June 2021.
Will OEM's / distributors begin flowing AS13100 on purchase orders by the end of 2022?

For RR, we will continue to specify compliance to SABRe. SABRe will specify compliance to AS13100 so in practice there will be no change to the purchase order to enact AS13100.

How does the forum see the implementation timeline of 2022 in relation to the COVID-19 crisis and its impact on resource availability? Many companies are reduced in size and resources.

This was one of the reasons that we extended implementation until January 1, 2023. There are very few 'new requirements' in AS13100 compared to the previous OEM standards, the changes should not be too great.

How does the supplier implement the new requirements when customers are not all on the same timeline for deployment of the AS13100?

The timeline for deployment is standard for all AESQ members - January 1, 2023.

Will there be a different language version? Currently, all documents are available in English only. If there is enough demand from a particular region/country then the AESQ may consider translating them into that language. Please contact AESQ with specific questions regarding translations at info@aesq.sae-itc.org.
Can we use "Problem-solving tools" by translated to our native language? The AESQ is reviewing options for translating documents into other languages. Please contact AESQ with specific questions regarding translations at info@aesq.sae-itc.org.
Is there any cutoff date to implement the APQP? APQP requirements flown down will be in PO? Compliance to AS13100/APQP is required by 1/1/2023

 

 

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